The Supreme Understanding
OSHO books - Tantra: The Supreme Understanding

20 February 1975 am in Buddha Hall


Everybody is born in freedom, but dies in bondage. The beginning of life is totally loose and natural,
but then enters the society, then enter rules and regulations, morality, discipline and many sorts of
trainings, and the looseness and the naturalness and the spontaneous being is lost. One starts
to gather around oneself a sort of armor. One starts becoming more and more rigid. The inner
softness is no more apparent.
On the boundary of one’s being one creates a fortlike phenomenon, to defend, to not be vulnerable,
to react, for security, safety, and the freedom of being is lost. One starts looking at others’ eyes; their
approvals, their denials, their condemnations, appreciations become more and more valuable. The
others become the criterion, and one starts to imitate and follow others because one has to live with

And a child is very soft, he can be molded in any way; and the society starts molding him – the
parents, the teachers, the school – and by and by he becomes a character not a being. He learns
all the rules. Either he becomes a conformist; that too is a bondage – or he becomes rebellious;
that too is another sort of bondage. If he becomes a conformist, orthodox, square, that is one sort
of bondage; he can react, can become a hippy, can move to the other extreme, but that too is again
a sort of bondage – because reaction depends on the same thing it reacts against. You may go
to the farthest corner, but deep down in the mind you are rebelling against the same rules. Others
are following them, you are reacting, but the focus remains on the same rules. Reactionaries or
revolutionaries, all travel in the same boat. They may be standing against each other, back to back,
but the boat is the same.
A religious man is neither a reactionary nor a revolutionary. A religious man simply is loose and
natural; he is neither for something nor against, he is simply himself. He has no rules to follow and
no rules to deny; simply, he has no rules. A religious man is free in his own being, he has no mold
of habits and conditionings. He is not a cultured being – not that he is uncivilized and primitive, he
is the highest possibility of civilization and culture, but he is not a cultured being. He has grown in
his awareness and he doesn’t need any rules, he has transcended rules. He is truthful not because
this is the rule to be truthful; being loose and natural he is simply truthful, it happens to be truthful.
He has compassion, not because he follows the precept: Be compassionate! No. Being loose and
natural he simply feels compassion flowing all around. That is nothing to do on his part; it is just
a byproduct of his growth in awareness. He is not against society, nor for society – he is simply
beyond it. He has again become a child, a child of an absolutely unknown world, a child in a new
dimension – he is reborn.
Every child is born natural, loose; then the society comes in, has to come in for certain reasons....
Nothing is wrong in it, because if the child is left to himself or herself the child will never grow, and
the child will never be able to become religious, he will become just like an animal. The society
has to come in; the society has to be passed through – it is needed. The only thing to remember
is: it is just a passage to pass through; one should not make one’s house in it. The only thing to
remember is: the society has to be followed and then transcended, the rules have to be learned and
then unlearned.
The rules will come in your life because there are others, you are not alone. When the child is in
the mother’s womb he is absolutely alone, no rules are needed. Rules come only when the other
comes into relationship; the rules come with relationship – because you are not alone you have to
think of others and consider others. In the mother’s womb the child is alone; no rules, no morality,
no discipline is needed, no order; but the moment he is born, even the first breath he takes is social.
If the child is not crying, the doctors will force him to cry immediately, because if he doesn’t cry for a
few minutes then he will be dead. He has to cry because the cry opens the passage through which
he will be able to breathe, it clears the throat. He has to be forced to cry – even the first breath is
social; others are there and the molding has started.
Nothing is wrong in it. It has to be done, but it has to be done in such a way that the child never
loses his awareness, does not become identified with the cultured pattern, remains deep inside still
free, knows that rules have to be followed but rules are not life, and knows this also and has to be
taught. And that’s what a good society will do: ”These rules are good but there are others, but these
rules are not absolute, and you are not expected to remain confined to them – one day you must
transcend them.” A society is good if it teaches its members civilization AND transcendence; then
the society is religious. If it never teaches transcendence then that society is simply secular and
political, it has no religion in it.

You have to listen to others up to an extent, and then you have to start listening to yourself. You must
come back to the original state in the end. Before you die you must become an innocent child again
– loose, natural; because in death again you are entering the dimension of being alone. Just as you
were in the womb, in death again you will enter in the realm of being alone. No society exists there.
And the whole of your life you have to find a few spaces in your life, a few moments like oases in
deserts, where you simply close your eyes and go beyond society, move into yourself, in your own
womb – this is what meditation is. The society is there; you simply close your eyes and forget the
society and become alone. No rules exist there, no character is needed, no morality, no words, no
language. You can be loose and natural inside.
Grow into that loose-and-naturalness. Even if there is a need for outer discipline, inside you remain
wild. If one can remain wild inside and still practicing things which are needed in the society, then
soon one can come to a point where one simply transcends.
I will tell you one story and then I will enter into the sutras.
This is a Sufi story: An old man and a young man are traveling with a donkey. They have reached
near a town; they both are walking with their donkey.
School children passed them and they giggled and they laughed and they said, ”Look at these fools:
they have a healthy donkey with them and they are walking. At least the old man can sit on the
Listening to those children the old man and the young man decided, ”What to do? – because people
are laughing and soon we will be entering the town, so it is better to follow what they are saying.” So
the old man sat on the donkey and the young man followed.
Then they came near another group of people and they looked at them and said, ”Look! – the old
man is sitting on the donkey and the poor boy is walking. This is absurd! The old man can walk, but
the boy should be allowed to sit on the donkey.” So they changed: the old man started walking and
the boy was allowed to sit.
Then another group came and said, ”Look at these fools. And this boy seems to be too arrogant.
Maybe the old man is his father or his teacher and he is walking, and he is sitting on the donkey –
this is against all rules!”
So what to do? They both decided that now there is only one possibility: that they both should sit on
the donkey; so they both sat on the donkey. Then other groups came and they said, ”Look at these
people, so violent! The poor donkey is almost dying – two persons on one donkey. It would have
been better if they carried the donkey on their shoulders.”
So they again discussed, and then there was the river and the bridge. They had now almost reached
the boundary of the town, so they thought: ”It is better to behave as people think in this town,
otherwise they will think we are fools.” So they found a bamboo; on their shoulders they put the
bamboo and hung the donkey by his legs, tied it in the bamboo and carried him. The donkey tried
to rebel, as donkeys are they cannot be forced very easily. He tried to escape because he is not a
believer in society and what others are saying. But the two men were too much and they forced him,
so the donkey had to yield.

Just on the bridge in the middle a crowd passed and they all gathered and they said, ”Look, these
fools! We have never seen such idiots – a donkey is to ride upon, not to carry on your shoulders.
Have you gone mad?”
Listening to them – and a great crowd gathered – the donkey became restless, so restless that he
jumped and fell from the bridge down into the river – died. Both men came down – the donkey was
dead. They sat by the side and the old man said, ”Now listen....”
This is not an ordinary story – the old man was a Sufi master, an enlightened person, and the young
man was a disciple and the old master was trying to give him a lesson, because Sufis always create
situations; they say unless the situation is there you cannot learn deeply. So this was just a situation
for the young man. Now the old man said, ”Look: just like this donkey you will be dead if you listen to
people too much. Don’t bother what others say, because there are millions of others and they have
their own minds and everybody will say something; everybody has his opinions and if you listen to
opinions this will be your end.”
Don’t listen to anybody, you remain yourself. Just bypass them, be indifferent. If you go on listening
to everybody, everybody will be prodding you to this way or that. You will never be able to reach your
innermost center.
Everybody has become eccentric. This English word is very beautiful: it means off the center, and
we use it for the mad people. But everybody is eccentric, off the center, and the whole world is
helping you to be eccentric because everybody is prodding you. Your mother prodding you towards
north, your father towards south, your uncle is doing something else, your brother something else,
your wife, of course, something else – everybody is trying to force you somewhere. By and by, a
moment comes when you are nowhere. You remain just on the crossroads being pushed from north
to south, from south to east, from east to west, moving nowhere. By and by, this becomes your total
situation – you become eccentric. This is the situation. And if you go on listening to others and not
listening to your inner center, this situation will continue.
All meditation is to become centered, not to be eccentric, to come to your own center.
Listen to your inner voice, feel it, and move with that feeling. By and by, you can laugh at others’
opinions, or you can be simply indifferent. And once you become centered you become a powerful
being; then nobody can prod you, then nobody can push you anywhere – simply, nobody dares. You
are such a power, centered in yourself, that anybody who comes with an opinion simply forgets his
opinion near you; anybody who comes to push you somewhere simply forgets that he had come to
push. Rather, just coming near you he starts feeling overpowered by you.
That’s how even a single man can become so powerful that the whole society, the whole history,
cannot push him a single inch. That’s how a Buddha exists, a Jesus exists. You can kill a Jesus but
you cannot push him. You can destroy his body, but you cannot push him a single inch. Not that he
is adamant or stubborn, no, simply he is centered in his own being – and he knows what is good
for him, and he knows what is blissful for him. It has already happened; now you cannot allure him
towards new goals, no salesmanship can allure him to any other goal. He has found his home. He
can listen to you patiently but you cannot move him. He is centered.

This centering is the first thing towards being natural and loose; otherwise if you are natural and
loose, anybody will take you anywhere. That’s why the children are not allowed to be natural and
loose, they are not mature enough to be that. If they are natural and loose and running all around,
their life will be wasted. Hence, I say, society does a needful work: it makes them protected; a celllike
character becomes the citadel. They need it: they are very vulnerable, they may be destroyed
by anybody. The multitude is there, they will not be able to find their way – they need a character
But if that character armor becomes your total life, then you are lost. You should not become the
citadel, you should remain the master and you should remain capable of going out of it; otherwise it
is not a protection, it becomes a prison. You should be capable of going out of your character. You
should be capable of putting aside your principles. You should be capable, if the situation demands,
of responding in an absolutely novel way. If this capacity is lost then you become rigid, then you
cannot be loose. If this capacity is lost then you become unnatural, then you are not flexible.
Flexibility is youth, rigidity is old age; the more flexible, the younger; the more rigid, the older. Death
is absolute rigidity. Life is absolute looseness, flexibility.

This you have to remember and then try to understand Tilopa. His final words:
Very very significant words.

Knowledge is always either of this or of that. Understanding is neither. Knowledge is always of
duality: a man is good, he knows what good is; another man is bad, he knows what bad is – but
both are fragmentary, half. Neither the good man is whole because he does not know what bad is;
his goodness is poor, it lacks the insight that badness gives.... The bad man is also half; his badness
is poor, it is not rich because he does not know what goodness is. And life is both together.
A man of real understanding is neither good nor bad, he understands both. And in that very
understanding he transcends both. A sage is neither a good man nor a bad man. You cannot
confine him to any category; there exists no pigeon-hole for him, you cannot categorize him. He is
elusive, you cannot catch hold of him. And whatsoever you say about him will be half, it can never
be total. A sage may have friends and followers, and they will think he is God because they see
only the good part. And the sage may have enemies and foes, and they will think that he is the
devil incarnate because they know only the bad part. But if you know a sage he is neither – or both
together; and both mean the same.
If you are both together, good and bad, you are neither – because they annihilate each other, negate
each other, and a void is left.
This concept is very difficult for the Western mind to understand, because the Western mind has
divided God and the devil absolutely. Whatsoever is bad belongs to the devil and whatsoever is
good belongs to God; their territories are demarked, hell and heaven are apart... set apart.

That’s why Christian saints look a little poor before tantric sages, very poor; just good, simple – they
don’t know the other side of life. And that’s why they are always afraid of the other side, always
trembling with fear. A Christian saint is always praying for God to protect him from the evil. The evil
is always by the corner; he has avoided it and when you avoid something, continuously it is in the
mind. He is afraid, trembling.
A Tilopa knows no trembling, no fear, and he never goes to pray to God, ”Protect me”; he is
protected. What is his protection? Understanding is his protection. He has lived all, he has moved
to the farthest corner into evil, and he has lived the divine, and now he knows both are two aspects
of the same. And now he is neither worried about good nor worried about bad; now he lives a loose
and natural, simple life, he has no predetermined concepts. And he is unpredictable.
You cannot predict a Tilopa. You can predict Saint Augustine, you can predict other saints, but you
cannot predict a tantra sage. You cannot – simply unpredictable, because in each moment he will
respond and nobody knows in what way, nobody knows; even he himself does not know. That’s
the beauty of it, because if you know your future then you are not a free man, then you are moving
according to certain rules, then you have a prefabricated character; then somehow you have to
react, not respond.
Nobody can say what a Tilopa will do in a certain situation. It will depend; the whole situation will
bring the response. And he has no likings, no dislikings – neither this nor that. He will act, he will
not react; he will not react out of his past, he will not react according to his future concepts, of his
own ideals. No. He will not react, he will act here and now, the response will be total; nobody can
say what will happen.
Understanding transcends duality.
It is said that once Tilopa was staying in a cave and a passer-by, a seeker of a certain type, came
to visit him. He was taking his food and he was using a human skull as a pot. The traveler became
afraid. It was weird! – he had come to see a sage and this man seemed to be something of the
world of black magicians. A human skull... and he was enjoying; and a dog was sitting by the side
of Tilopa and the dog was also eating from the same pot. When this man came Tilopa invited him
to participate. ”Come here,” he said, ”so beautiful you reached in time because this is all that I have
got. Once it is finished then for twenty-four hours there is nothing. Only tomorrow somebody may
bring something. So you come and join in and participate.”
The man felt very much disgusted – a human skull, food in it, and a dog also a participant! The man
said, ”I feel disgusted.”
Tilopa said, ”Then you escape as soon as possible from here and run fast and never look back,
because then Tilopa is not for you. Why are you disgusted with this human skull? You have been
carrying it for so long and what is wrong if I am taking my food in it? It is one of the cleanest things.
You are not disgusted with your own skull inside – and your whole mind, your beautiful thoughts and
your morality and your goodness and your saintliness, all are in the skull. I am taking only my food
in it; and your heaven and your hell and your gods and your BRAHMA, all are in your skull. They
must have become absolutely dirty by now – you should be disgusted about that. And you yourself
are there in the skull. Why do you feel disgusted?”

The man tried to avoid and rationalize; he said, ”Not because of the skull but because of this dog.”
Tilopa laughed and said, ”You have been a dog in your past life and everybody has to pass through
all the stages. And what is wrong in being a dog? And what is the difference between you and
a dog? The same greed, the same sex, the same anger, the same violence, aggressiveness, the
same fear – why do you pretend that you are superior?”
Tilopa is difficult to understand because ugly and beautiful make no sense to him; purity, impurity
make no sense to him; good and bad make no sense to him. He has an understanding of the total.
Partial is knowledge, understanding is total. And when you look at the total, all distinctions drop:
What is ugly and what is beautiful? What is good and what is bad?
All distinctions simply drop if you have a bird’s-eye view of the total, then all boundaries disappear.
It is just like looking down from an airplane. Then where is Pakistan and where is India? And where
is England and where is Germany? All boundaries are lost, the whole earth becomes one.
And if you go still higher in a spaceship and look at it from the moon, the whole earth becomes so
small – where is Russia and where is America? And who is a communist and who is a capitalist?
Who is a Hindu and who is a Mohammedan? The higher you go, the less are the distinctions – and
understanding is the highest thing, there is no more beyond it. From that highest peak everything
becomes everything else. Things meet and merge and become one, boundaries are lost... an
unbounded ocean with no source to it... infinity.
Tilopa says be loose and natural – but he doesn’t mean be lazy and go to sleep. On the contrary,
when you are loose and natural much resourcefulness happens to you. You become tremendously
creative. Activity may not be there – action is there. Obsession with occupation may not be there,
will not be there, but you become tremendously resourceful, creative. You do millions of things, not
because of any obsession but just because you are so filled with energy you have to create.
Creativity comes easy to a man who is loose and natural. Whatsoever he does becomes a creative
phenomenon. Wherever he touches, it becomes a piece of art; whatsoever he says becomes a
poetry. His very movement is aesthetic. If you can see a buddha walking, even his walking is
creativity. Even through his walking he is creating a rhythm, even through his walking he is creating a
milieu, an atmosphere around him. If a buddha raises his hand he changes the climate immediately
around him. Not that he is doing these things, they are simply happening. He is not the doer. Calm,
settled inside; tranquil, collected, together inside, filled with infinite energy overpouring, overflowing
in all directions, his every moment is a moment of creativity, of cosmic creativity.
Remember that. It has to be remembered because many people can misunderstand. They can
think, ”No activity is needed,” so they can think, ”No action is needed.” Action has a different quality
altogether. Activity is pathological.
If you go in a madhouse you will see people in activity, every madman doing something, because
that is the only way they can forget themselves. You may find somebody washing his hands three
thousand times a day because he believes in cleanliness. In fact, if you stop him washing his hands
three thousand times a day he will be unable to stand himself, it will be too much. This is an escape.
Politicians, people who are after wealth, power – they are all mad people. You cannot stop them
because if you stop they don’t know what to do then; and then they are thrown into themselves, and
that is too much.
One of my friends was telling me once that they had to go to a certain party; and they have a very
small child, a beautiful child, and of course very active as children are. So they locked the room and
told him, ”If you behave well and don’t create any disturbance in the house, whatsoever you ask we
will give you, and within an hour we will be back.” The child was allured: whatsoever he can ask
will be given. So really he acted well. In fact, he didn’t do anything; he simply stood in the corner
because, ”Whatsoever I do may turn out... nobody knows, nobody knows about these adult minds
– what is wrong and what is good; and they go on changing their opinions also.” So he stood with
closed eyes just like a meditator.
And then they opened the door when they came back; he was standing in the corner, stiff. He
opened the eyes and looked at them, and they asked, ”Did you behave well?”
He said, ”Yes, in fact I behaved so well that I couldn’t stand myself.” It was too much!
People who are too occupied in activities are afraid of themselves. Activity is a sort of escape; they
can forget themselves in it. It is alcoholic, it is an intoxicant. Activity has to be dropped because it is
pathological, you are ill. Action has not to be dropped, action is beautiful.
What is action? Action is a response: when it is needed you act; when it is not needed you relax.
Right now you go on doing things which are not needed; and right now when you want to relax, you
cannot relax. A man of action, total action, acts; and when the situation is over he relaxes.
I am talking to you.... Talking can be either activity or action. There are people who cannot stop
talking: they go on, they go on. Even if you stop their mouths it will not make any difference INSIDE;
they will go on chattering, they cannot stop it. This is activity: a feverish obsession. You are here and
I talk to you: even I don’t know what I am going to talk about to you. Until the sentence is uttered,
even I am not aware what it is going to be. Not only are you the listeners, I am also a listener here.
When I have said something then I know that I have said it. Neither you can predict nor can I predict
what I am going to say; even the next sentence is not there, it is YOUR situation that brings it.
So whatsoever I say, I alone am not responsible, remember; you are also half responsible for it. It
is half-half: you create the situation, I act. So if my listeners change, my talk changes. It depends,
because I have nothing preformulated. I don’t know what is going to happen, and that’s why it is
beautiful for me also. It is a response, an act. When you are gone I sit inside my abode, not even a
single word floats in the inner sky. It is you.
So sometimes it happens people come to me and say, ”We were going to ask a certain question
and you answered it.” And every day it happens. It is happening: if you have a certain question,
you create a climate around you of that question, you come filled with that question. Then what
am I to do? I have to respond. Simply your question creates the situation and I have to respond.

That’s why many of your questions are simply solved. If some question is not solved the reason
must be somewhere in you; you may have forgotten it. In the morning it was in the mind but when
you entered this room you forgot about it. Or there were many questions and you were not certain
exactly which question is to be asked; you were in confusion, vague, cloudy. If YOU are certain
about your question the answer will be there.
It is nothing on my part, it simply happens. You create the question, I simply float into it. I have
to, because I have nothing to say to you. If I have something to say to you, you are irrelevant;
whatsoever question you have doesn’t make any sense – I have my prepared thing in me and I have
to tell it to you. Even if you are not there it will not make any sense.
The All-India Radio used to invite me to speak, but I felt it was very difficult because it was so
impersonal: talking to nobody! I simply said, ”This is not for me. And it is such a strain and I don’t
know what to do – there is nobody.” So they arranged... they said, ”This can be done: from our staff
a few people can come and they can sit.” But then I told them, ”Then you don’t give me the subject
because those people will give me the subject. This will be totally irrelevant – anybody sitting there
and you have given me a subject to talk on it and nobody is involved in that subject; they are just a
dead audience.”
When you are there you create the question, you create the situation and the answer flows towards
you. It is a personal phenomenon. Then I simply stopped going there. I said, ”This is not for me, it
is not possible. I cannot talk to machines, because they don’t create any situation for me to float in.
I can talk only to persons.”
That’s why I have never written a book. I cannot! – because for whom? Who will read it? Unless I
know that man who will read it, and unless he creates a situation, I cannot write – for whom? I have
written only letters, because then I know that I am writing to somebody. He may be somewhere
in the United States, it makes no difference – the moment I write a letter to him it is a personal
phenomenon: he is there. While I am writing he helps me to write. Without him it is not possible; it
is a dialogue.
This is action. The moment you are gone, all language disappears from me; no words float, they are
not needed. And this should be so! When you walk you use your legs and when you sit in your chair
what is the point of moving your legs? It is mad! When there is a dialogue, words are needed; when
there is a situation, action is needed. But let the whole decide it; you should not be the deciding
factor, you should not decide. Then there are no karmas, then you move, from moment to moment,
fresh. The past dies by itself every moment, and the future is born and you move into it fresh like a
Actions happen but there is no attachment; you don’t feel, ”I have done this.” I don’t feel I have said
this. I simply feel it had been spoken, it has happened. The whole has done it, and the whole is
neither me nor you – the whole is both and neither. And the whole hovers around and the whole
decides: you are not the doer. Much happens through you, but you are not the doer. Much is
created through you, but you are not the creator. The whole remains the creator – you become
simply vehicles, mediums for the whole. A hollow bamboo... and the whole puts his fingers and his
lips on it and it becomes a flute, and a song is born.

From where does this song come? From that hollow bamboo you call a ”flute”? No. From the lips
of the whole? No. From where does it come? Everything is involved: the hollow bamboo is also
involved, the lips of the whole are also involved, the singer is involved, the listener is involved –
everything is involved. Even a small thing can create a difference.
Just a roseflower by the side of the room and this room will not be the same, because the roseflower
has his own aura, his own being. He will influence: he will influence your understanding, he will
influence whatsoever is spoken by me – and the total moves, not parts. Much happens but nobody
is the doer.
And when you are not the doer how can the attachment happen? You do a small thing and you
become attached. You say, ”I have done this.” You would like everybody to know that you have done
this and you have done that. This ego is the barrier for the supreme understanding. Drop the doer
and let things happen. That’s what Tilopa means by being loose and natural.
This is a very deep thing, very subtle and delicate. Tilopa says, ”What is the supreme
accomplishment? It is to realize immanence without hope; that inside, the inner space is perfect,
absolute – without hope. Why does he bring this word ”hope” in? – because with the hope comes
future, with the hope comes desire, with the hope comes the effort to improve, with the hope comes
the greed for more, with the hope comes discontentment, and then, of course, frustration follows.
He is not saying be hopeless, because that too comes with hope. He is simply saying ”no hope”; not
hopeful, not hopeless – because they both come with the hope. And this has become such a great
problem for the West, because Buddha says the same, and then Western thinkers think that these
people are pessimists. They are not. They are not pessimists, they are not optimists. And this is the
meaning of ”no hope.”
If somebody hopes we call him an optimist. We say about him that he can see the silver lining in
the darkest cloud, we say that he can see the morning following the darkest night: he is an optimist.
And then there is the pessimist, just the opposite of it. Even in the brightest silver lining he will
always see the darkest cloud there. If you talk about the morning he will say, ”Every morning ends
in the evening.” But remember: they may be opposites but they are not really separate; their focus
is different but their mind is the same. Whether you see the bright lining, the silver lining in the dark
cloud, or you see the dark cloud in the silver lining, you always see the part. Your division is there;
you choose, you never see the total.
Buddha, Tilopa, myself, we are neither optimists nor pessimists – we simply drop hope. With hope
they come in – both the optimist and the pessimist. We simply drop the coin of hope, and both the
aspects are dropped with it. This is a totally new dimension, difficult to understand.
Tilopa sees the suchness of things; he is without choice. He sees both the morning and the evening
together, he sees both the thorns and the flower together, he sees both the pain and the pleasure
together, he sees both the birth and death together. He has no choice of his own. He is neither
a pessimist nor an optimist – he lives without hope. And that is a really wonderful dimension to
live in: to live without hope. The very words ”without hope” are used... simply inside you it feels
it is something so pessimistic, but that is because of the language – and what Tilopa is saying is
WITHOUT HOPE. You simply realize yourself as you are in your total suchness, and simply you are
that. There is no need for any improvement, change, development, growth, no need. Nothing can
be done about it. It is simply the case.
Once you go deeply into this – that it is simply the case – suddenly all flowers and all thorns
disappear, days and nights disappear, life and death disappear, summer and winter disappear.
Nothing is left – because the clinging disappears. And with the acceptance of whatsoever you are,
whatsoever is the case, there is no problem then, no question, nothing to be solved – you simply are
that. A celebration comes; and this celebration is not of hope, this celebration is just an overflowing
of the energy. You start blooming. You simply bloom, not for something in the future; you cannot do
When one realizes the suchness of being, the blooming happens; one goes on blooming and
blooming and celebrating for no visible cause at all. Why am I happy? What have I got that you
have not got? Why am I serene and quiet? Have I achieved something that you have to achieve?
Have I attained to something that you have to attain? No. I have simply relaxed into the suchness.
Whatsoever I am – good, bad, moral, immoral – whatsoever I am, I have simply relaxed into the
suchness of it. And I have dropped all efforts to improve, and I have dropped all future. I have
dropped hope, and with the dropping of hope everything has disappeared. I am alone and simply
happy for no reason at all; simply silent because now, without hope, I don’t know how to create
disturbance. Without hope how can you create disturbance in your being?
Remember this: all effort will lead you to a point where you leave all effort and will become effortless.
And the whole search will lead you to a point where you simply shrug your shoulders and sit down
under a tree and settle.
Every journey ends in the innermost suchness of being – and that you have every moment. So it is
only a question of becoming a little more aware. What is wrong with you? I have seen millions of
people and I have not seen even a single person who has really something wrong, but he creates
things. You are creators, great creators of illnesses, wrongs, problems, and then you chase them –
how to solve them? First you create and then you go chasing. Why in the first place create them?
Just drop hope, desire, and simply look at the case that you are already; just simply close your eyes
and see who you are, and finished! Even in the blinking of the eye this is possible, it needs no time.
If you are thinking it needs time, gradual growth. Then it is because of your mind you will need time,
otherwise time is not needed.
... that all that is to be achieved is in. That is the meaning of immanence: all that is to be achieved
is already there inside you. You are born perfect; otherwise is not possible because you are born of
the perfect. That is the meaning when Jesus says, ”I and my Father are one.” What is he saying?
He is saying that you cannot be otherwise than the whole because you come out of the whole.

You take a handful of water from the ocean, you taste it: it tastes the same everywhere. In a single
drop of seawater you can find the whole chemistry of the sea. If you can understand a single drop of
seawater you have understood all seas, past, future, present – because a small drop is a miniature
ocean. And you are the whole in a miniature form.
When you go deeper inside you and realize this, suddenly a laughter happens, you start laughing.
What were you seeking? The seeker himself was the sought; the traveler was himself the goal. This
is the suprememost accomplishment: to realize oneself, one’s absolute perfection, without hope –
because if a hope is there it will stir; it will continually stir in your disturbance. You will start thinking
again, ”Something more is possible.” Hope always creates dreams: ”Something more is possible.
Of course it is good....”
People come to me and they say, ”Meditation is going very well; of course, it is good, but give
us some other technique so that we can grow more.” Even sometimes people have come to me
saying, ”Everything is beautiful....” And then they say, ”Now what?” Now the hope stirs. Everything
is beautiful, then why ask, ”Now what?” Everything was wrong, then again you were asking, ”Now
what?” And now everything is beautiful, again you ask, ”Now what?” Now leave it, this hope.
Just the other day somebody came, and said, ”Everything is going very beautifully now, but who
knows about tomorrow?” Why bring tomorrow in when everything is going absolutely right? Can’t
you remain without problems? Now everything is good, but you worry whether it may be good
tomorrow or not. If it is good today from where is the tomorrow going to come? It will be born out of
today, so why be worried? If today is silent, tomorrow is going to be more silent; it will be born out of
today. But because of this worry you can destroy today; then the tomorrow will be there and you will
be fulfilled in your frustration and you will say, ”This is what I was thinking and worried about – it has
happened.” And it has happened because of you. It was not going to happen! Had you remained
without the future, it would not have happened.
And this is the self-destructive tendency of the mind, suicidal; and in a way it is very self-fulfilling, so
the mind can always say, ”I was warning you before. I had warned you beforehand, you didn’t listen
to me.” Now you will think, ”Yes, that’s right; the mind was warning and I was not listening to it.” But
it has come only because of the warning of the mind.
Many things happen.... If you go to the astrologers, JYOTISHI, palmists, and they say something
to you, when it happens you will think they predicted your future. Just the opposite is the case:
because they predicted, your mind got into it and it happened. If somebody says that next month
on the thirteenth of March you are going to die, the possibility is there – not because he had known
your future, but because he has predicted the future. Now the thirteenth of March will move in your
mind continuously: you will not be able to sleep without it, you will not be able to dream without it,
you will not be able to love without it. Twenty-fours hours: ”The thirteenth of March and I am going to
die.” It will become a self-hypnosis, a chanting. It will go round and round; the nearer the thirteenth
of March will come, the faster it will move. And it will self-fulfill: thirteenth of March....
It happened once that a German palmist predicted his own death. He had been predicting many
people’s death and it happened, so he became certain that his prediction was something; otherwise,
how was it happening? And he was getting old so a few friends suggested, ”Why not predict your
own?” So he studied the hands and charts and everything – all foolish – and then he decided about
his own death: that it was going to happen on such and such a date, six o’clock early in the morning.
And then he waited for it. Six was approaching; from five o’clock he was ready, sitting at the clock.
Each moment, and death was coming nearer and nearer and nearer. And then came just the last
moment – one moment more and the clock would say it is six, and he is still alive, how is it possible?
Seconds started passing, and exactly when the clock struck six he jumped out of the window...
because how is it possible.... And of course, he died exactly as predicted.
Mind has a self-fulfilling mechanism. Be alert about it. You are happy; the mind says, ”Of course,
you are happy, it is okay – but what about tomorrow?” Now already the mind has distorted, destroyed
this moment, it has brought tomorrow in. Now the tomorrow will come out of this mind, not out of
that blissful moment that was there.
Don’t hope this way or that, for or against, drop all hope. Remain to the moment, in the moment,
with the moment, for the moment. There is no other moment than this. And whatsoever is going to
happen will happen out of this moment, so why worry? If this moment is beautiful how can the next
moment be ugly? From where will it come? It grows, it will be more beautiful – has to be. There is
no need to think about it.
And once you accomplish this, remaining with your innate perfection.... Remember, I have to use
words and there is a danger that you may misunderstand. When I say remain with your inner
perfection you may be worried because sometimes you may feel that you are not perfect – then
remain with your imperfection. Imperfection is also perfect! Nothing is wrong in it, remain with it.
Don’t move away from THIS moment; here and now is the whole existence. Everything that has
to be accomplished is to be accomplished here and now, so whatsoever is the case, even if you
feel imperfect – beautiful, be imperfect! That’s how you are, that is your suchness. You feel sexual
– perfect, feel sexual. That’s how you are, that’s how God meant you to be. Sad – beautiful, be
sad, but don’t move from the moment. Remain with the moment and, by and by, you will feel the
imperfection has dissolved into perfection, the sex has dissolved into the inner ecstasy, the anger
has dissolved into compassion.
This moment, if you can be your total being, then there is no problem. This is the supreme
accomplishment. It has no hope, it need not have. It is so perfect there is no need for hope.
Hope is not a good situation; hoping always means something is wrong with you – that’s why you
hope for the against, for the opposite. You are sad and you hope for happiness; your hope says that
you are sad. You feel ugly and you hope for a beautiful personality; your hope says you are ugly.

Show me your hope and I can tell you who you are, because your hope immediately shows who you
are – just the opposite. Drop hope and just be. At first, if you try this, just being, this will happen:
If you are being here and now, the first SATORI will happen, the first glimpse of enlightenment. And
this will be the situation inside:

because your mind starts melting. Right now it is like a frozen glacier. If you remain loose, natural,
true to the moment, authentically here and now, the mind starts melting. You have brought sun
energy to it. This very being in the here and now conserves such a vast energy. Not moving in the
future, not moving in the past, you have so much, tremendous energy in you, that the very energy
starts melting the mind.
Energy is fire, energy is of the sun. When you are not moving anywhere, completely still, here and
now – no going, converging upon yourself – all leakage stops, because leakage is through desire
and hope. You leak because of the future. Leakage is because of a motivation: ”Do something, be
something, have something. Why are you wasting your time sitting? Go! Move! Do!” – then there
is leakage. If you are simply here, how can you leak? Energy converges, falls back upon you, it
becomes a circle of fire – and then the glacier of the mind starts melting.
Everything falls. The whole mind is falling, falling, falling – you may be scared. Near the first satori
the master is needed very very deeply and intimately, because who will tell you, ”Don’t be afraid; it
is beautiful – fall”?
Just the word ”fall” and fear comes in, because falling means falling into an abyss, losing your
ground, moving into the unknown. And falling carries a sense of death – one becomes afraid.
Have you ever gone to some mountains, a high peak, and from there you looked down into the
abyss, the valley?Nausea, trembling, fear comes in as if the abyss is death and you can fall into it.
When the mind melts everything starts falling, EVERYTHING I say. Your love, your ego, your greed,
your anger, your hate – all that you have been up to now suddenly starts becoming loose and falling,
as if the house is falling apart. You become a chaos – no more order, all discipline falling. You have
been maintaining yourself somehow; somehow you were together forcing a control upon yourself, a
discipline. Now being loose and natural everything is falling. Many things that you have suppressed
will bubble up, they will surface. You will find a chaos all around; you will be just like a madman.
The first step is really difficult to pass through, because whatsoever society has forced on you will
fall, whatsoever you have learned will fall, whatsoever you have conditioned yourself will fall. All your
habits, all your directions – all your paths will simply disappear. Your identity will evaporate; you will
not be able to know who you are. Up to now you knew well who you were: your name, your family,
your status in the world, your prestige, your honor, this and that: you were aware of them. Now
suddenly everything is melting, the identity is lost. You knew many things, now you will not know
anything. You were wise in the ways of the world; they will fall and you will feel completely ignorant.
This is what happened to Socrates. That was his first satori moment, when he said, ”Now I know
only one thing, that I don’t know anything. Only one knowledge I have, that I am ignorant.” This is
the first satori.
Sufis have a particular term for this man, this type of man, who comes to this state; they call him
MAST, they call him the madman. He looks at you without looking at you. He roams around not
knowing where he is going. He talks nonsense. He cannot keep a relevant coherence in his talk.
One word and then a gap; then another word absolutely unrelated; one sentence, then another
sentence not connected at all – no coherence, all consistency is lost. He becomes a contradiction;
you cannot rely on him.

For these moments a school is needed, where people can take care of you. Ashrams came into
existence because of this – because this man cannot be allowed in the society, otherwise they will
think he is mad and they will force him into a prison or a madhouse, and they will try to treat him.
They will try to bring him down, back to his normal state – and he is growing! He has broken all the
chains of the society; he has become a chaos.
Hence my insistence on chaotic meditations. They will help you to come to this first satori. From
the very beginning you cannot sit silently; you can befool, but you cannot sit, that is not possible.
That can happen only in the second satori. In the first satori you have to be chaotic, dynamic; you
have to allow your energies to move so that all strait-jackets around you are broken and all chains
are thrown away. You become for the first time an outsider, no more part of the society. A school is
needed where care can be taken of you. A master is needed who can say to you, ”Don’t be afraid,”
who can tell you to fall easily. Allow it to happen; don’t cling to something because that will only
delay the moment – fall! The sooner you fall, the madness will disappear sooner; if you delay, then
the madness can be continued for long.
There are millions of mad people in the madhouses in the whole world who are not in fact mad, who
needed a master, who don’t need a psychotherapist. They have attained their first satori, and all
psychotherapies are forcing them back to be normal. They are in a better situation than you; they
have reached a growth, but the growth is so outlandish – it has to be so in the beginning, they are
passing the first satori – and you have made them guilty. You say, ”You are mad!” – and they try to
hide it and they try to cling, and the longer they cling, the longer the madness will follow them.
Only just recently a few psychoanalysts, particularly R.D. Laing and others, have become aware of
the phenomenon that a few mad people have not fallen lower than the normal, really they have gone
beyond the normal. Just a few people in the West, very perceptive people, have become aware
of it – but the East has always been aware, and the East has never suppressed mad people. The
first thing the East will do: the mad people have to be brought to a school where many people are
working and a living master is there. The first thing is to help them to attain a satori.
Mad people have been respected highly in the East; in the West they are simply condemned, forced
to have electric shocks, insulin shocks, forced somehow even if their brains are destroyed – because
now there are surgical things going on. Their brain is operated on and a few parts of the brain are
removed. Of course then they become normal, but dull, idiotic, their intelligence is lost. They are no
more mad, they will not harm anybody; they will become a silent part of the society – but you have
killed them not knowing that they were reaching a point from where a man becomes superhuman.
But of course, the chaos has to be passed.
With a loving master and a loving group of people in a school, in an ashram, it passes easily,
everybody takes it easily, helps it; one moves to the second stage easily. This has to happen
because all order is imposed on you, it is not real order. All discipline is forced on you, it is not your
inner discipline. Before you attain to the inner, the outer has to be dropped; before a new order is
born, the old has to cease – and there will be a gap. That gap is madness. One feels like tumbling,
falling like a waterfall into the abyss, and there seems to be no bottom to it.

In mid-course if this point is passed, if the first satori is lived well, then a new order arises that is
from within, that comes from your own being. Now it is no more of the society, it is not given to you
by others, it is not an imprisonment. Now a new order arises which has a quality of freedom. A
discipline comes to you naturally, it is of your own. Nobody asks it of you, nobody says, ”Do this!” –
you simply do the right thing.
The tumbling, the roaring waterfall has disappeared, the chaos is no more. This is the second satori.
You become like the Ganges, flowing gently, slowly; not even a sound is created. You walk like a
bridegroom, silently, gracefully. An absolutely new charm happens to your being – grace, elegance.
This is the second stage in which we have caught all the buddhas in the statues; because the third
cannot be caught, only the second or the first.
All the buddhas, TIRTHANKARAS of the Jainas – go and look at their statues: the elegance, the
grace, the subtle roundness of their bodies, feminine. They don’t look masculine, they look feminine;
a roundness, their curvature is feminine. That shows their inner being has become very slow, very
gentle; nothing of aggression in them.
Zen masters – Bodhidharma, Rinzai, Bokuju – they have been pictured in the first state. That’s why
they are so ferocious. They look like roaring lions, they look like they will kill you. If you look at their
eyes, their eyes are volcanoes, fire jumps at you; they are like shocks. They have been pictured in
the first satori state for certain reasons, because Zen people know that the first is the problem; and if
you know Bodhidharma in this state, when the same state will happen to you you will understand not
to be afraid; even Bodhidharma.... But if you have been always watching buddhas and tirthankaras
in their silent and slow-flowing rivers and their feminine grace, you will become very much afraid
when ferociousness comes to you, when you become like a lion – exactly: one starts roaring. You
become a waterfall – tremendous!
That’s why in Zen the ferocious state has been pictured more and more. Of course there were
buddhas in the shrine, but that is the next state. And that is not a problem at all; when you become
silent there is no problem. In India the second stage has been emphasized too much and that
became a barrier, because one should know from the very beginning how things are. A buddha is
already an accomplished being. It can happen to you, but in the gap from you to Buddha something
else is going to happen – and that is complete madness.
What happens when you accept all madness, you allow it? – it subsides by itself. The old order that
society forced, goes, simply evaporates. Old knowledge is no more there; all that you knew about
the scriptures is no more there. There is a Zen monk burning all scriptures – his picture is one of
the most famous pictures. That comes in the first state. One burns all the scriptures, one throws
all knowledge; everything that has been given to you looks rubbish, rot. Now your own wisdom is
arising; there is no need to borrow it from anybody. But it will take a little time, just like a seed takes
time, to sprout.
If you can manage to pass through the chaotic state, then the second follows very very easily,
automatically, of its own accord. You become silent, everything is calmed down, just like the Ganges
when it comes to the plains. In the hills it is roaring like a lion, falling from great heights into depths,
much turmoil; and then it comes to the plains, leaves the hills. Now the terrain changes, now
everything flows silently. You cannot even see whether it is flowing or not; everything moves as if it
is not moving, at ease.

Attain to inner accomplishment, innate, with no hope – not going to any goal, not in any hurry, no
haste; just enjoying... each moment.
This second stage has the quality of absolute silence, calm, quietude, tranquility, collectedness,
at-homeness, rest, relaxation.
And then:
Then suddenly, flowing silently, it reaches to the ocean and becomes one with the ocean – a vast
expanse, no boundaries. Now it is no longer a river, now it is no longer an individual unit, now there
is no ego.
Even in the second stage there is a very very subtle ego. Hindus have two names: one they call
AHAMKAR, ego, that’s what you have; the second they call ASMITA, amness, no ego. When you
say, ”I am,” not the ”I,” but simply ”am,” amness, they call it asmita. It is a very very silent ego, nobody
will feel it, it is very passive, not aggressive. It will not leave any trace anywhere, but it is still there.
One feels one is.
That’s why it is called the second satori: the Ganges is flowing silently of course, at home, at peace,
but still it is; it is asmita, it is amness. The ”I” has dropped and all the madness of the ”I” has gone;
the aggressive, the ferocious ”I” is no more there, but a very silent amness follows, because the river
has banks and the river has boundaries. It is still separate, it has its own individuality.
With the ego, personality drops but individuality remains. Personality is the outer individuality.
Individuality is the inner personality. Personality is for others, it is a showroom thing, a display.
That has dropped; that is the ego. But this inner feeling, ”I am” or rather ”am,” is not for display,
nobody will be able to see it. It will not interfere with anybody’s life; it will not poke its nose into
anybody’s affairs. Simply it moves, but it is still there – because the Ganges exists as an individual.
Then the individuality is also lost. That is the third word: ATMA. Ahamkar is ego, the ”I-ness”; the
”am” is just a shadow of it, the ”I” is focused. Then the second state, asmita: the ”I” has dropped;
now the amness has become the total, not a shadow. And then atma: now the amness has also
This is what Tilopa calls no-self. You ARE, but without any self; you are, but without any boundaries.
The river has become the ocean; the river is in the ocean, it has become one with it. The individuality
is no more there, no boundaries, but the being exists as a nonbeing. It has become a vast emptiness.
It has become just like the sky.

The ego was like black clouds all over the sky. The amness, asmita, was like white clouds in the sky.
And atma is as if without clouds, only the sky has remained.
Where you come back to the original source, the mother, the circle is complete. You have come
back home, dissolved with the original source. The Ganges has come to Gangotri, the river has
come to its original source: the complete circle. Now you are, but in such a totally different sense
that it is better to say that you are not.
This is the most paradoxical state because it is most difficult to bring it into language and expression.
One has to taste it. This is what Tilopa calls Mahamudra – the great orgasm, the ultimate orgasm,
the supreme orgasm. You have come back from where you had gone. The journey is over, and not
only the journey is over, but also the journeyman is no more. Not only the journey is over as a path,
but the goal is also over.
Now nothing exists and everything is.
Remember this distinction. A table exists, a house exists – but God IS; because a table can go into
nonexistence, a house can go into nonexistence, but the God cannot. So it is not good to say that
God exists; God simply is. It cannot go into nonexistence. It is pure isness. This is Mahamudra.
All that exists has disappeared, only isness remains.
The body has disappeared, it existed. The mind has disappeared, it existed. The path has
disappeared, it existed. The goal has disappeared. All that existed has disappeared, only purity
of isness is there – an empty mirror, an empty sky, an empty being.
This is what Tilopa calls Mahamudra. This is the supreme, the last, there is no beyond to it. It is the
very ”beyondness.”
Remember these three stages; you will have to pass through them. Chaos, everything gone topsyturvy;
you are no more identified with anything, everything has become loose and fallen apart – you
are completely mad. Watch it, allow it, pass through it, don’t be scared; and when I am here you
need not be scared. I know it will pass, I know it always passes, I can assure you. And unless it
passes, the grace, the elegance, the silence of a buddha will not happen to you.
Let it pass. It will be a nightmare, of course, but let it pass. With that nightmare all your past will
be cleansed. It will be a tremendous catharsis. All your past will pass through a fire, but you will
become pure gold.
Then comes the second state. The first has to be passed because you may get scared and run
away from it. The second also has a different kind of danger, an absolutely different kind; not at all
a danger. The first has to be passed; you have to be aware that it will pass. It will pass, just time is
needed, and trust. The second has a different kind of danger: you would like to cling to it because it
is so beautiful; one would like to be in it forever and ever. When the inner river flows calm and quiet
one wants to cling to the banks; one wants not to go anywhere else, this is so good. In a way it is a
greater danger.
A master has to assure you that the first will pass, and a master has to force you so that you don’t
cling to the second, because if you cling, the Mahamudra will never happen to you. There are many
people clinging to the second, they are hanging on to it. There are many people who are hanging
on to the second because they have become so attached to it. It is so beautiful one would like to fall
in love with it; one falls automatically. Aware, remain aware – that too has to be passed. Watch so
that you don’t start clinging.
If you can watch your fear with the first and your greed with the second.... Remember, fear and
greed are two aspects of the same coin. In fear you want to escape from something, in greed you
want to cling to it, but they are both the same. Watch fear, watch greed and allow the movement
to continue; don’t try to stop it. You can become stagnant, then the Ganges becomes not a flowing
thing – a stagnant pool. Howsoever beautiful, it will be dead soon. It will become dirty, it will dry up
and soon all that was gained will be lost.
Go on moving. The movement has to be eternal – keep it in mind. It is an endless journey, more is
always possible; allow it to happen. Don’t hope for it, don’t ask for it, don’t go ahead of yourself, but
allow it to happen, because then the third danger comes when the Ganges falls into the ocean, and
that is the last because you will be losing yourself.
That is the ultimate death. It appears like the ultimate death. Even the Ganges shudders, trembles
before it falls; even the Ganges looks backwards, thinks of past days and memories, and the
beautiful time on the plains and the tremendous energy phenomenon in the hills and the glaciers.
At the last moment when the Ganges is going to fall into the ocean, it lingers a little while more. It
wants to look back, think over memories, beautiful experiences. That has to be also watched. Don’t
When the ocean comes, allow: merge, melt, disappear.
Only at the last point can you say goodbye to the master, never before it. Say goodbye to the master
and become the ocean. But up to that moment you need the hand of somebody who knows.
There is a tendency in the mind to avoid intimate relationship with the master; that’s what becomes
a barrier in taking sannyas. You would like to remain uncommitted; you would like to learn, but you
would like to remain uncommitted. But you cannot learn, that is not the way; you cannot learn from
the outside. You have to enter the inner shrine of a master’s being. You have to commit yourself.
Without it you cannot grow.

Without it you can learn a little bit from here and there, and you can accumulate a certain knowledge
– that will not be of any help, rather it may become an encumbrance. A deep commitment is needed,
a total commitment in fact, because there are many things going to happen. And if you are just
outside on the periphery, just learning as a casual visitor, then much is not possible, because what
will happen to you when the first satori comes? What will happen to you when you go mad? And
you are not losing anything when you commit yourself to a master because you don’t have anything
to lose. By your commitment you are simply gaining; you are not losing anything because you don’t
have anything to lose. You have nothing to be afraid of. But still, still one wants to be very clever,
and one wants to learn without commitment. That has never happened, because it is not possible.